How and why are airplanes pressurized?
It’s easy to take flying for granted. We hop on-board a comfy airliner and fly high in the stratosphere without giving breathing a second thought. The aircraft’s pressurization system makes it possible. Here’s how the magic works…
Hypothetical experiment: If you place a scale in a vacuum chamber and compare the weight of a filled balloon with an empty one, you’ll see that air has mass.
Earth’s atmosphere is about 300 miles thick. At sea level, our bodies are subjected to about 14.7 pounds of pressure from this tall column of air. I’ll bet you don’t even notice! For animals roaming the earth’s surface, a 14.7 psi atmosphere provides the perfect amount of oxygen.
As we climb in altitude, the amount of air pressure acting on us decreases rapidly. You notice the decrease when your ears pop while driving up a mountain or riding a fast elevator. Although the atmosphere is 300 miles thick, most of the air molecules are squashed down to within a few thousand feet of the earth’s surface.
Denver is fine. Going higher spells trouble.
As we climb higher, air molecules are spread farther apart. When we breathe, our lungs take in less air, and less oxygen. Folks living in Denver, Colorado (5600 ft) are quite happy breathing the lower, 12 psi atmosphere. Climbing to a higher altitude, though, and the pressure drops really fast.
At 18,000 feet, the atmospheric pressure is down to 7.3 psi, about half the sea-level pressure. There just isn’t enough oxygen in a breath of air to adequately supply the brain. At this pressure, a healthy adult has only 20-30 minutes of useful consciousness.
Airliners fly between 30,000 and 43,000 feet. At those altitudes the atmosphere provides less than 4 psi of pressure. If you tried breathing at that altitude, your useful consciousness would be less than a minute (followed soon after by death).
To survive high altitudes, occupants of an aircraft need help breathing. The solution is to pump air into the airplane so the interior pressure is high enough to keep the humans happy.
Why bother with pressurization? Why not fly down low?
Airplanes can certainly fly below 10,000 feet where the atmospheric pressure is a comfy 10 psi or higher, but it has some drawbacks:
- It’s tough to cross a 14,000 foot mountain range at 10,000 ft.
- Most bad weather is at lower altitudes.
- Turbofan engines are very inefficient down low.
- Aircraft ground speeds are slower at lower altitudes.
If you want a fast, smooth ride in a fuel efficient airplane that can fly over a mountain range, we need to pressurize!
How does a pressurization system work?
The airplane body (fuselage) is a long tube capable of withstanding a fair amount of differential air pressure; think of it like a big plastic soda bottle. In theory, we could seal the bottle so, as the airplane climbs, the interior air pressure would stay the same. We can’t do that because it’s hard to perfectly seal a huge airplane fuselage. Even if we could, the passengers would quickly use up the available oxygen. And just imagine the smell inside a perfectly sealed tube on a long flight! Clearly, a big sealed soda bottle won’t work for us without some modification.
To solve the problems, pressurization systems constantly pump fresh, outside air into the fuselage. To control the interior pressure, and allow old, stinky air to exit, there is a motorized door called an outflow valve located near the tail of the aircraft. It’s about the size of a briefcase and located on the side or bottom of the fuselage. Larger aircraft often have two outflow valves. The valves are automatically controlled by the aircraft’s pressurization system. If higher pressure is needed inside the cabin, the door closes. To reduce cabin pressure, the door slowly opens, allowing more air to escape. It’s one of the simplest systems on an aircraft.
One of the benefits of a pressurization system is the constant flow of clean, fresh air moving through the aircraft. The air inside the airplane is completely changed every two or three minutes making it far cleaner than the air in your home or office.
Pressurization systems are designed to keep the interior cabin pressure between 12 and 11 psi at cruise altitude. On a typical flight, as the aircraft climbs to 36,000 feet, the interior of the plane “climbs” to between 6000-8000 feet.
Why not keep the cabin at 14.7 psi to simulate sea-level pressure and maximize comfort? The aircraft must be designed to withstand differential pressure, that’s the difference between the air pressure inside and outside the aircraft. Exceeding the differential pressure limit is what makes a balloon pop when it’s over inflated. The greater the differential pressure, the stronger (and heavier) the airplane must be built. It’s possible to build an aircraft that can withstand sea-level pressure during cruise, but it would require a significant increase in strength and weight. A 12 psi cabin is a good trade-off.
Outflow Valve Trivia:
If you look at pictures of airliners taken prior to 1990, you might see brown stains around the outflow valve. The stains are from tobacco smoke. Airlines were thrilled when the industry banned smoking. Tar and nicotine gummed up valves, instruments, and sensors causing thousands of dollars a year in damage. Tobacco is really nasty stuff.
Protecting the Fuselage from Pressurization Problems
Two types of mechanical devices are installed on the fuselage to protect the pressurized section of the aircraft against excessive pressure differential.
Positive Pressure Relief Valves
Every pressurized aircraft has a maximum pressure differential limit. Exceeding this limit (pumping too much air pressure into the fuselage) can cause damage – even blow out doors and windows. To protect the aircraft from over pressurizing, positive pressure relief valves are installed. The devices (sometimes called butterfly valves) are spring-loaded to vent excess air pressure when cabin pressure exceeds the maximum limit.
Negative Pressure Differential Relief Doors
Negative pressure differential means the pressure outside the cabin is greater than the pressure inside the cabin. This situation could occur during a rapid descent. Negative pressure is bad because it pushes inward on doors and windows. These components are not designed for this type of force.
Again, spring-loaded devices are used to protect the fuselage from damage. Air pressure of less than 1.0 psi against the outside of the doors causes them to open inward against the spring load, venting air into the fuselage to equalize the pressure.
Where does pressurized air come from?
Electric Compressors
Old piston powered airliners, like the Boeing Stratocruiser, used electric air compressors to pump fresh, outside air into the cabin. This system worked well, but the compressors added a lot of weight to the aircraft.
Turbocompressors
Early jetliners, like the Douglas DC-8 and Boeing 707 used bleed air from the engines to spin turbocompressors. The turbocompressors then pumped fresh outside air into the cabin.
Engine Bleed Air
Most modern airliners use bleed air from the compressor section of the engines to pressurize the cabin. This very hot air must be cooled to a comfortable temperature before it’s directed into the cabin.
Electric Compressors (Again!)
The new Boeing 787 Dreamliner brings back the electric compressor. The 787’s electrical system powers compressors, just like on the old Stratocruiser. Advances in technology make this system far more efficient than it’s predecessor from the 1950’s.
What is bleed air?
A jet engine has three main sections: compressor, combustion, and turbine/exhaust. The compressor is at the front of the engine. A series of spinning blades draws in fresh, outside air. As the air is compressed, it becomes very hot. Remember high school physics? As a gas is compressed, its temperature rises. The hot, compressed air then enters the combustion chamber where it is mixed with fuel and burned. The expanded gasses continue through turbine blades which power the compressor blades before exiting the engine producing thrust.
Bleed air is fresh, clean, hot air taken from the compressor section of the engine before it is mixed with fuel or exhaust gasses. Common uses for hot bleed air are wing and engine ice protection, cabin pressurization, engine starter motors, and air driven hydraulic pumps.
How do pilots control the pressurization?
It’s really, really easy. The cabin altitude control panel on the 757 and 767 is super simple. During preflight checks, pilots turn the “LDG ALT” knob to display the altitude of the landing airport. That’s it! We don’t touch it for the remainder of the flight. The automatic mode takes care of the outflow valve for us.
The remaining indicators and knobs are for redundancy in case of a malfunction. There are two separate automatic modes. A manual mode allows us to adjust the position of the outflow valve should both auto systems fail. Pressurization systems work great and rarely cause any trouble.
Effects Of Flying In A Pressurized Cabin
The air inside an aircraft cabin is very low in humidity. On a long flight it’s important to drink plenty of water to stay hydrated. When the flight attendant offers you a bottle of water, drink it. You may not notice that you’re dehydrated.
Alcohol consumption: Dehydration increases the effects of alcohol on your body. To make matters worse, alcohol increases dehydration; it’s a double-whammy. If you choose to drink alcohol on a flight, be sure to drink plenty of water and have something to eat while enjoying your cocktail. Don’t be that guy. Drink extra-responsibly when flying.
Does this food taste bland? Yes! There’s a good chance your in-flight meal really does taste bland. The aircraft cabin’s low humidity and lower air pressure reduce your sense of taste and smell by as much as 30% according to a Lufthansa commissioned study. Airline food kitchens often add extra spices and flavoring to meals to compensate for your crippled taste buds!
Special thanks to my Twitter friend (and fellow blogger) @Jen_Niffer for tipping me off to the Lufthansa study!
Further Reading About Pressurization:
What happens if there is a problem with the pressurization system?
Your Oxygen Mask vs My Oxygen Mask
Ken , as always very good article and clear for all of us. Thank you again taking time to share those things with rest of us. Probably on a “second” life I would have been a pilot..
I’m glad I can share my knowledge. Thanks for reading!
Does cabin pressure effect newly injected Botox or Dermal fillers?
You will need to ask your physician.
I asked my doctor the same question and apparently it doesn’t. I had fillers in my lips a week before i flew and I was fine… Xx
Ken I have a safety concern. As we all must fly with face masks per COVID rules, I am concerned that in the event of a Rapid D the face mask may inhibit the flow of emergency O2. Because of the chaos of the event passengers may not have time to remember to remove face mask prior to donning O2 mask.I feel the FAA must study this immediately. How about you? Thanks Mike
Hi Mike,
I guess there will always be passengers that won’t put on a mask properly. In the event of a rapid decompression, the crew immediately descends the aircraft to a safe altitude. This occurs rather quickly. Even without using a mask, it’s unlikely a passenger would sustain a long term injury.
How can you depresurized the aircraft from outside?
Hi Dirk. I don’t understand your question. Can you be more specific?
Hello Ken.. This is a Great Explanation. Thank you so much for the Details.Can you please send me a link which i can read all your articles or do you have YouTube channel? i saw this article accidentally while i was searching for some information.
https://aerosavvy.com works best. ?
Honestly this was so helpful. I was having trouble trying to understand this topic but your piece of writing came to my rescue
Hi, I have a question, if a plane is left presurized and someone opens a door at ground level, what are the forces involved? Thanks for your time and knowledge.
Hi Jerry,
This is an unlikely scenario. Pressurization systems are fairly simple and include safeguards to keep the aircraft from being pressurized after landing. There isn’t any way that pilots can accidentally leave an airplane pressurized when on the ground. In theory, if still pressurized, the doors would be nearly impossible to open.
If the aircraft was somehow still pressurized after landing, it wouldn’t be for long. An aircraft fuselage is not designed to be perfectly sealed like a submarine. It doesn’t need to be. The outflow valve, even when closed, isn’t an airtight seal. Various cables and controls pass through bushings that, although nearly airtight, still leak.
In order to be pressurized, air must constantly be pumped in to overcome the air leaking out.
I have health issues that cause me to have a hard time breathing and I feel like I’m being sqweezed from the inside this happens at about 4000 ft is there anything I can do to beable to fly comfortable
Hi Theresa, you need to ask your doctor. They might be able to help you.
Why are airplanes made out of aluminum instead of stainless steel which would be much stronger, and not much heavier due to being thinner material,
and much cheaper by far, allowing the air craft to be in service much longer, and be much safer, and more readily recycled.
Aluminum has a lot of benefits. Strong, lightweight, easy to manufacture, and inexpensive. Most important, aluminum is far less susceptible to corrosion when compared to steel products.
It has been tried. CRES (Corrosion REsistant Steel) as we call it in aero engineering is very expensive, difficult to fabricate into the shapes we want (hence making the end product even more expensive) and also has the *disadvantage* of being thinner for the same strength (that can be good for skins, not so good in other parts of the structure). Just drilling holes in it is a pain, CRES rivets are more difficult to buck or pull, and whilst being a stronger material, in most cases, would need to be the same size and thus weigh more. You could use aluminium rivets if strength and size was the only criterion, but this requires special corrosion protection which is difficult, expensive and not greatly effective. CRES fasteners tend to gall. CRES is much more costly to mill into complex structures. CRES has been used as a substitute for titanium in supersonic aircraft skins. If a 16 thou 6061 skin is going to carry the load, changing to a 4 thou CRES skin for the same tensile strength will often be so thin as to create difficulties. CRES is used selectively where advantage can be gained. It also has poorer fatigue properties than ordinary steels. CRES in control cables sounds great, but in reality you often get a shorter safe life. CRES is great for making exhaust systems, where it can be used thinner than ordinary steel, resulting in a lighter component with a longer life. If not exposed to oxygen, CRES can corrode easily – sometimes, things like grease deposits or paint will cause CRES to corrode due to lack of oxygen. If you think it is cheaper than aluminum alloys, you really need to think again. Especially if your comparison is based on cost per weight of raw material. CRES costs about 50% more by weight, so your structural weight would need to be reduced by a third, even if all other things were equal for the price to be equivalent. But there are other factors. The MiG25 was about 80% CRES, due to a cruise speed of mach 2.8, this was significantly heavier than an aluminum structure to handle the same loads, but ordinary aircraft alloys lose significant strength above 150 Celsius, whilst the aircraft skin reaches 300 Celsius at high mach. That aircraft used about 12% by weight of high temperature aluminium alloy and the balance was mostly titanium. CRES is way cheaper and easier to work with than titanium.
When I fly, it’s usually 14+ hours of flight.
Knowledge of the cabin pressure is very helpful.
Although Air craft is marvel engineering.
Thank You.
Baber N Choudhry
Your writing is great, but the smoking stain bit is gross. From an asthmatic, 3Green.
It’s amazing that we used to fly in airplanes coated in that nasty stuff. “Smoking Section?” The whole aircraft was a smoking section! Sorry if I grossed your out. Thanks for reading!
Yes, I remember those days…I’ve had asthma all my life. Even though I was seated as far as possible from the “smoking section”, we were ALL breathing it. That’s probably responsible for at least some of the irreparable damage to my lungs and COPD which now hinder my travel. Thank goodness those days are over! Thanks for your clear and concise explanations!
Hi Melinda,
It’s disappointing that it took us all these years to finally recognize and respond to the public safety hazards of smoking.
I couldn’t agree more… Thank goodness those days are over!
Thanks for reading,
Ken
Hi Mr. KEN,
Would you please explain me that why temperature and pressure values are indicated at flight doors.
I don’t understand your question. Can you give me a link to a photo?
Maybe you are looking at the meters used for escape slide inflator bottles. That’s so it is easy to make sure that there is a pressure available for them. Escape slides are usually fitted to the bottom of the type 1 doors under a fiberglass fairing with a window to let the bottle gauge be read.
I think it is a chart showing temperature in the range of 50 degree to -40 degree celsius but unable to remember corresponding pressure range. It is pasted on portion of door which is nor visible when door is closed. Similar to tyre pressure chart on car door at a place which is visible when driver’s door is open. Is it for seal pressure or cabin prssure. Kindly share the need for the chart.
Note:I reached your page searching for explanation of same chart. Your article is really veryinformative and nicely presented. Thanks.
Great post Ken! Informative but also quite entertaining. Loved the graphics — and I had no idea the 787 used electric motors to compress air for the pressurization system. I also didn’t know abut the tar stains on the outflow valve… but I should have. That feces-color staining is unmistakable. Truly disgusting.
Hi Ron,
Thanks so much for the nice comments. It’s always fun digging for interesting info on an otherwise boring subject!
Thanks for reading!
If Ron is reading your stuff it must be good. I know this is an old post so you may not see this. The year is 2018 and and engine failed on a 737 braking a window and killing a passenger. Fellow passengers state the deceased was partially sucked out the window. With a differential of 2.7 psi that seems hard to believe. Am I kidding my self? What would the air velocity be at that differential?
Hi Robert,
The problem isn’t velocity, but pressure differential. The atmosphere at cruise altitude can be as low as 4 PSI, while pressure inside the cabin is around 12. That’s a differential of 8 PSI, which is substantial – equating to several hundreds of pounds of force pushing against a window. The Washington Post did a really nice write up about it. Here’s the link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2018/04/18/while-extremely-rare-it-is-possible-to-get-sucked-out-of-an-airplane/
Thanks for reading!
Ken
Hi Ken, I really enjoy your site. Could you please explain the “LDG ALT” knob? What would an altitude of 0070 be? I’m very curious about aviation, but obviously not a pilot! Thanks
Hi Joe, great question!
Before we take off, we adjust the LDG ALT (Landing Altitude) knob so the display shows the elevation above sea level of the landing (destination) airport. When I took the photo in the article, we were in Shenzhen, China (near Hong Kong) getting ready to depart to Kuala Lumpur, the capital city of Malaysia. Kuala Lumpur’s airport elevation is 70 feet above sea level, so that’s what we set in the window.
As we begin our descent for landing, the pressurization system uses the LDG ALT information to make sure the air pressure inside the plane is the same as the outside pressure when the airplane touches down on the runway.
Thanks for the questions and thanks for reading!
Ken
Thanks for the reply Ken. I wasn’t sure if that setting was in feet or maybe an atmospheric pressure rating for the destination airport. Thanks for explaining, I appreciate it!
You bet! Thanks for reading!
Hi Ken, I always enjoy your writing. A quick question though, what if both engines are dead? Does that mean the cabin is not pressurized?
Cheers
Pete J
Hi Pete,
This is one of those worst case scenarios! Systems on every aircraft model are different, so my answer will be based on a “generic,” bleed air pressurized aircraft; we’ll call it the AeroSavvy AS-100.
In the event of all engines failing, we’ll lose our primary sources of pressurization. With no air being pumped into the cabin, the outflow valve will close in an attempt to maintain cabin pressure. Even though the valve is closed, the air still leaks out through various cracks and crevices causing the cabin pressure to slowly drop. It won’t be a rapid depressurization, but your ears will start popping.
IF the aircraft’s APU (auxiliary power unit) is running, it may provide enough bleed air to pressurize the cabin and keep the masks from dropping. The crew will likely turn on the APU as soon as they see the engines failing.
In the meantime, the crew will have the aircraft in a controlled, gradual descent as they run through the engine restart checklist. Once the engines are running again, normal pressurization will be restored.
The good news is that this has never happened on an AeroSavvy AS-100. 🙂
Sorry for the long answer.
Thanks for reading!
Wow Ken! You surely master the art of explaining things in a very easy way. Loved the article!!
Thank you, Clara! I’m glad you enjoyed the article. Thanks for reading!
A very nice read. I just found out your site and I’m already finding every article on here useful. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for reading –
Ken
Ken…follow you on Twitter and enjoy your Tweets and these articles so much…I live my aviation fantasies vicariously through you…thanks so much…a Canadian fan
Hi Liz, welcome!
Thanks for the kind words and thank you for reading!
Ken
Thanks Ken
This article explains aircraft pressurisation so clearly. I have forwarded the link to my book group. Why? One of the members wondered why her smuggled boxes of eggs burst in her hold suitcase.
Hi Judith,
Thanks for the kind words.
Were they raw eggs? Eggs have very little air inside of them which should make them fairly immune to the pressure changes in an airliner. If she checked her bag, it was likely the baggage crews that caused the eggs to break.
I recently flew on a 787 for the first time. I was hoping that the extra cabin pressure on a 787 would help my symptoms from sinus issues be less apparent. By midway of the long flight I had all the various pain issues that I associate with sinus problems while flying. This made me wonder if the 787 actually is flown at the advertised pressure you see in the literature or airlines can set the amount as they see fit? (I also realize that my discomfort might be from something else; dehydration or just sinus problems not related to the pressure.) – Hans
Hello Hans,
I’m sure the airline was operating the 787 pressurization exactly as it was designed to be used. It’s an automated system that works beautifully. Even though the system is an improvement over older systems, it still does not maintain a ground-level cabin pressure. While a typical airliner might maintain a 7000-8000 foot cabin altitude, the Dreamliner has a 6000-7000 foot cabin. While this is a big improvement, someone with sinus problems will likely still have problems in a 787.
I’m sorry about your discomfort. You might check with your doctor before flying again. He or she may be able to recommend something like a Benzedrex inhaler that will help relieve your discomfort.
Thanks for reading!
Ken
I see an aircraft pressurization system advertised as 5.5 psi. Is there a chart or formula which would indicate the cabin pressure versus sea level pressure at 5.5? As I am reading various responses, I am guessing that it may be close to 13,000 ft MSL. Yet I have been unable to find a chart.
Hi Alvin,
Something doesn’t sound right. If you were in a 5.5 psi atmosphere, that would be equivalent to 25,000 feet. You’d be unconscious within 3-6 minutes. Here’s a chart I found with Google: http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/air-altitude-pressure-d_462.html
If the 5.5 psi reference you saw referred to differential pressure, it wouldn’t be nearly high enough to pressurize an airline cabin. Airliners typically run about 7-8 psi differential pressure at cruise (differential pressure is the pressure inside the cabin minus the pressure outside).
If you can provide a link to where you saw the information, perhaps I can decipher it for you.
Thanks for reading!
Ken
The various versions of the Piper Malibu it has a maximum cabin pressure differential between 5.5 and 5.6; that is probably the plane he saw that data on. Because they fly at a much lower altitude the lower differential is not as much of an issue as in an airliner.
Hi Harry,
That makes perfect sense! Thanks for passing that along.
Ken
Military tactical aircraft are typically pressurized to a 5.5 psi differential above 23,000 feet to save structural weight. With only one or two crew members on-board, it’s lighter to have them on stored or processed oxygen the entire flight, rather than keep the cockpit at a lower pressure altitude.
who invented/designed cabin pressurization?
Great question, Ben!
The very first aircraft with pressurization was the Airco DH.9A. The British WWI bomber was modified in Dayton, Ohio to have a pressurized compartment. In 1921, this redesignated aircraft, the US D-9A, flew the first high altitude pressurized flight. I don’t know if any one person “invented” pressurization. The US D-9A work was done by the Aviation Section, U.S. Signal Corps and its successor the United States Army Air Service.
From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airco_DH.9A
Thanks for reading!
Ken
How are air crew and passengers in commercial airlines, without filtration or detection systems warned, protected and informed in the event of a fume incident from contaminated bleed air?
Hi Owen,
On the aircraft I fly, there are no detection or warning systems to let us know of contaminated bleed air. There are only a few things that can contaminate bleed air.
Occasionally, deicing fluid can get into the system; we have procedures that we follow to minimize this risk. The very small amounts that get in the system (usually through the APU inlet) are not hazardous. The large amount of fresh air flowing through the system quickly dissipates the residual vapor.
Sometimes vapor from engine lubricants can find themselves in the bleed air system as the engines are started. Again, the small amounts of vapor are quickly eliminated from the system by the huge quantity of fresh air being moved through the aircraft.
It’s possible that a temperature control valve can malfunction causing excessively hot air in the system. We’ll get an indication in the cockpit that this is happening and we will likely smell it. The crew has a checklist for this and the system responsible for the problem will quickly be shutdown. This is pretty rare and redundant systems assure that it’s not a big deal.
That’s about it for bleed air. Because of the way the system is designed, it is very difficult for the air supply to become compromised.
Great article, Ken. On a recent flight to TPA on an older 737-300, ears were popping as usual on the way up and down. Return trip on a 700, the pressurization was so smooth the thing I noticed was the very little bit of ear popping I had. So, was it the aircraft, or my own “plumbing” that made the difference?
Hi Derek,
That’s an interesting question! Both the new and old 737s are designed so that the cabin altitude during cruise flight doesn’t exceed about 8000 feet.
However, the pressurization system on the newer 737 is an improved digital system that includes features designed to increase comfort. The pressure changes, while still there, should be a little smoother and less noticeable, making the flight a little easier on your ears. As you noticed, passengers like it.
Thanks for reading!
Ken
Very informative, thanks. I was just diagnosed w a tiny brain aneurysm and am nervous about flying next week although 2 neurologists said it was fine and a nurse told me that its a myth that you can’t fly. Someone else said your brain is protected ftom pressure bc it’s in a fluid sac and i read that it’s ok bc the cabin is pressurized which led me to this article. Do you have any insight about how flying affects the brain and blood vessels and if there are any dangers?
Hi Sydney,
I’m sorry to hear about your medical issue. I really can’t comment because I’m not a doctor. If you aren’t sure, please don’t hesitate to get a second opinion from a neurologist.
Thanks for reading!
Ken
Hi Ken,
Many thanks for your explanation because I recently traveled on an Australian domestic flight on which I experienced pain in one ear, and I was wondering how and at what level the pressure was maintained.
I also noticed that perfumes seemed to suddenly be detected in the cabin air. Can and do pilots inject perfumes or other chemicals into the cabin air stream?
Thanks again
Hi Rod,
Aircraft pressurization systems generally maintain the cabin pressure altitude at about 7000-8000 feet or about 11.3 psi. If you have a sinus blockage, it doesn’t take much change in pressure to experience inner ear pain.
I’ve never heard of anyone injecting perfumes or chemicals into the cabin air stream. No aircraft that I am familiar with has that capability. Most likely, another passenger was putting on, or spraying perfume. You might also have been smelling a deodorizer in a lavatory (which is far better than smelling the lavatory!).
Thanks for reading!
Ken
Hey anyone please tell me, if the pressurization system fails to do its intended function while the aircraft is in cruise, how does it regain/maintain the cabin pressure?
Hello, Renjith,
I think you are asking: “What happens when the pressurization system fails?”
If the system and its redundant, back up systems stop working, the outflow valve is designed to close which will slow (but not stop) the aircraft from depressurizing. In this situation, the flight crew will begin an emergency descent. At lower altitudes there will be sufficient atmospheric pressure for normal breathing.
Thanks for reading!
Ken
Thanks Ken for your reply.. and here comes my real doubt… at the time of depressurisation, when the aircraft starts to descent to a lower altitude, how the cabin pressure will get equal to the outside pressure.. I mean fuselage is air tight right? Then how its done…?
Hi Renjith,
It surprises many people that an aircraft fuselage is not airtight. Even with the outflow valve fully closed, air still leaks out of it. Window and door seals also leak a little bit of air. So, if the pressurized air source is interrupted, the fuselage will slowly lose pressure. This is why flight crews will immediately begin descending the aircraft if there is a serious pressurization problem.
Thanks for reading!
Ken
hi Ken! great article! i loves read..its fits my style..I’m from malaysia..currently stdying dip in aircraft maintenance..could you explain well about how outflow valve operate? thanks
Hi Ezzat,
Pressurization systems on every aircraft are a little different. The valves are usually operated by an electric motor that receives a signal from the controller. As you go through your training, you’ll learn the small details!
Thanks for reading!
Ken
Thanks for an informative article and a great blog!
Unfortunately, the experiment of “fill a balloon and weigh it” won’t work the way that you describe. Of course, air *does* have mass… but filling the balloon also displaces atmospheric air… so the balloon “floats” in the atmosphere by exactly the same amount of additional weight imparted by the mass of the air inside it. So a balloon inflated with air will weigh the same on a scale as an unfilled balloon.
An easy way to think about this is to consider a helium-filled balloon on the surface of the earth. Helium has some mass, but it’s less dense than air. Helium balloons float because they displace more air-mass than the mass of the helium inside of them. So filling a helium balloon will make it apparently weigh less, even though you’ve increased the mass.
Best wishes!
Hi George,
Good catch! We’ll assume that my experiment takes place in a laboratory vacuum chamber. 🙂
Thanks for reading!
Ken
does a small amount of decompression take place on all flights ( to a certain extent) or is it considered decreased air pressure that occurs on all fights ?
Hi Rupert,
Decompression and “decreased air pressure” are the same thing: the reduction of air pressure in the cabin of an aircraft. After an aircraft takes off, the pressure inside the cabin decreases at a slower rate than the pressure outside the aircraft as it climbs.
Thanks for reading!
Ken
Hi Ken:
Your posts are great and interesting for me and I always read it… I am Iranian and I translate your post to Persian for my channel in telegram…I learn so much information from your posts and thank you for writing these posts.
Hello Reza,
I’m glad you enjoy reading AeroSavvy! I occasionally fly over southern Iran when flying from Dubai to Germany. You have a beautiful country.
Thanks again for reading!
Ken
Hello Ken,
I have a billion questions coming more as a result of curiosity than anything else. Recently we had a little baby and wife and I were trying to fly but the airline told us baby needed to be at least a month old to fly but Google said otherwise, what is your proffessionl opinion on flying a week old baby?
Hi there,
If it were my kid, I wouldn’t trust Google or a pilot. Please ask your pediatrician. Your child’s doctor is the best resource you have to determine whether he or she is ready to fly.
Thanks for reading!
Ken
Hello Ken,
Great stuff on pressurizing the cabin. Quick question. How does the system maintain a cabin oxygen concentration (21% at sea level) of cabin air at cruise of 35K feet When there is very little oxygen in the outside air. My guess this is where the compression of outside air to be vented through the cabin plays a role???
Hi Byron,
Don’t try to overthink the system, it’s very simple. The air in our atmosphere is 21% oxygen. This percentage is roughly the same at all altitudes that an aircraft operates. At sea level, air molecules (including oxygen molecules) are close together. At 35,000 feet, the air molecules are spread out (but the oxygen content is still 21%). The pressurization system simply takes the “thin” outside air and pumps it into the cabin with enough to force to push the air molecules close together so they’re breathable by us humans.
I hope that helps clarify it.
Thanks for reading!
Ken
WOW Ken, the answer to the question I could not answer. Perfect. So simple the way you described it. Thank you again.
Ken, if I may: I think some bad intentional people have thrown you “TRICK QUESTIONS” beyond the scope of your coverage just to see what you would respond as they, the badies, already know the answer to the questions asked. Your answers are perfect: Ask your Doctor, ask the manufacturer, etc. Just to let you know you are very much appreciated.
Hi Herbert, I think most of them are honest questions. People often don’t know where else to turn. Sometimes they forget that a doctor, pharmacist, etc are great resources.
I’m an expert at a few things, but I’m careful not to go near stuff with liability issues. ?
Hi Ken, Thanks for a really informative article that answered all the questions that went through my mind on a flight from Singapore to Perth yesterday. It’s interesting that you busted the myth planes recycle the air through the cabin which makes it easy to catch a cold on a plane.
My question is does using bleed off air increase fuel consumption? I was on a Royal Jordanian Tri-star some years ago and several passengers fainted (including me) and we were told that the pilots would turn down the air-con to save fuel. Does that make sense?
Hi Phil,
Thanks for the comments and questions! I’ll try to clarify the system a little bit…
Does bleed air increase fuel consumption?
YES! We are essentially “stealing” compressed air from the engines and that comes at the cost of burning a little extra fuel. The less bleed air we steal, the lower our fuel burn is. The amount of fuel is relatively small on any flight, but it all adds up at the end of the year.
“Recycled” air: Actually, most modern aircraft do, sort of, recycle air. A typical component of the air conditioning system is the recirculation (or recirc) fan. The fan takes air, usually from a lower compartment, and pumps it back into the air conditioning ducts. The fans increase overall cabin air circulation while lowering the airflow required from the pressurization system. This saves a little bit of fuel ($$). Don’t worry, even with the recirc fan, there is always fresh air being pumped into the cabin and stale air exiting the outflow valve. Even the most efficient aircraft pressurization system has more air turn-over than your home or office.
Your last comment has me stumped. Pilots really can’t “turn down” the pressurization. Some systems allow us to increase/decrease the flow, which affects the noise level and fuel burn slightly, but the aircraft will still maintain proper pressurization. If the cabin pressure is reduced to a dangerous level, the oxygen masks will drop down. I have no idea what could have been going on in your Tri-Star (one of my favorite classic jets!).
Thanks again for writing!
Ken
Hi Ken. I came across your article while trying to research whether or not I can ship an exterior steel patio door by way of airfreight on a major passenger airline without any Argon gas escaping. I was told by the airline, after they checked with their Dangerous Goods (DG) Manager, that it was okay because it was not compressed. I am still concerned that the gas may escape under pressure in the cargo area and the door would be rendered useless once it gets to its destination, because once the gas escapes, fog, or steam, builds up between the glass and appears cloudy. My concern arose when the shipping worker told this to me when he asked how I was shipping it. I’d appreciate any input on this concern. Thank you.
Hi Shari,
That’s a very interesting question. You need to ask the door manufacturer. They will know if their doors can be safely shipped by air.
Thanks for reading!
Ken
For a person with COPD, should i be worried?
Hi Brad,
You should discuss any medical conditions with your doctor before flying.
Thanks for reading!
Ken
Excellent.
Thank you, Jim!
A very informative article
Thank you. And thanks for reading!
Ken
Hi Ken,
Very Informative Article.
Came across this Article, while searching for Cabin Pressure Related Psychological / Physiological effects. During our Last flight with Family (My Wife’s Maiden Night Flight), she started feeling suffocated, when the cabin lights were dimmed, which could be attributed to Psychological effect, but soon (even before and during Take OFF) started reporting symptoms of Barotrauma (Pain in various parts of “gastrointestinal tract”), which could not be attributed to Psychological effort.
My Question here is:
1. Will the Cabin Pressure be altered even before Take OFF (During Engines are Revved up in full Throttle, in preparation of Take OFF in Few Seconds).
2. I came across another article (Link Given Below), which Claims that Human capacity to adapt to low pressures differ between day & Night. Is It TRUE!!!?
Link: https://www.quora.com/Why-does-cabin-pressure-change-during-flight-Why-cant-it-be-kept-constant-and-just-adjusted-once-i-e-after-landing
(Check First Answer, which claims of Day & Night Difference).
Thanking you in Advance.
Hi Vishnu,
There are a lot of really bad (incorrect) responses in the Quora link. Hypoxia effects are the same on the body, day or night. At night, we may notice a difference in vision due to the way rods and cones in the retina work. Without oxygen, you’ll die in the same amount of time, day or night. 🙂
Most airliners pressurize the cabin slightly just before takeoff. This small amount of pressurization should theoretically cause gasses in the body to be reduced in size (take up less space in the digestive system and sinuses). If this small amount of pressurization has any effect on the body at all, it would reduce gas pains (the gas takes up less space). Once airborne, the cabin pressure will slowly begin to drop (cabin altitude climbs). The slow drop in cabin pressure causes bodily gasses to expand. That’s what usually causes gas pains in the digestive system and clogged sinus pain.
It’s difficult to say exactly what was going on with your wife. I hope her next flight goes better!
Thanks for reading!
Ken
Ken, maybe you can help with this question.
Was flying a King Air 200, very high pressure system across the region and PA/DA was extremely low.
Field Elev. 1000 (Cabin Controller setting)
DA -3,200 ft
PA -2,700 ft
Alt.Setting 30.66
Temperature -16C
During the descent the aircraft started to depressurize at 4,000ft MSL. Is this normal due to the environmental conditions? the Cabin Controller would only adjust to -1500ft.
Kevin
Hi Kevin,
That doesn’t sound like normal behavior for a pressurization system. However, I’m not familiar with the King Air. You should consult the manufacturer’s operating manual or your company’s training documentation for more information.
Thanks for reading!
Ken
Hi Ken, a first class article. I train commercial divers in the UK and often use the analogy of pressurised aircraft to help understand that the partial pressure of oxygen is what sustains life rather than the percentage of oxygen in the mix. A “deep sea” diver living in saturation will survive breathing oxygen percentages of less than 5% at depth and this can be difficult to understand for many. Your article helps make it very clear for many in the way you present it. Forgive me if I borrow some of your knowledge to educate the commercial diving community. A fantastic article, and very well presented, many thanks.
Hi Alister,
Thanks for the great comment! I’m glad you found the article useful.
Thanks for reading!
Ken
Hi Ken, this is really great, thank you! Really helped me to understand how pressurization more.
I did have one question, however. For narrow body (737, a321) shorter duration flights <45 mins that fly at a lower altitude of 15-20k feet, would cabin pressure be higher than one flying at 35,000 feet for 2 hours? So, instead of a psi between 11-12, it would maybe be even higher at 12-13 and thus cabin altitude would be lower than 5-6k feet?
Thank you again!
Hi Stephen,
That’s exactly right. If the aircraft is cruising at a lower altitude, the pressurization system will provide a lower cabin altitude. A few nights ago we had a short hop on the 767. Our cruise altitude was 24,000. I think our cabin was about 2,000 feet.
Thanks for reading!
Ken
First time reader and thoroughly enjoyed the article on pressurization. I especially appreciate the way you wrote if for fliers instead of engineers! TW
Hi Tom,
I’m so glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for reading,
Ken
Hi Ken, I must say your very knowledgable. A superb article.
Gautam,
I appreciate the kind words. Thanks for reading!
Ken
do air crew still get popping ears or do they get used to it or have special tricks to overcome this?
Hi Dan,
We have the same problems that passengers have. Same tricks apply to everyone. If your ears need a little help to equalize, holding your nose and gently blowing through the nose usually works for me. Chewing gum can also help.
Thanks for reading!
Ken
I really enjoyed reading this article.
Thank you, Eileen!
Ken
Very Interesting.
I was looking for explanation of airtight strength requirements of 6000Pa for High Speed Trains and landed up here.
Great Explanation and Very Informative.
Thanks for reading!
Great article and conversation. I have been using and flying with an oxygen concentrator (I have idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis) but I can only get a decent blood oxygen level with it full on (5 litres a minute) on short haul propeller flights. Given that the battery life is limited at 5 litres I needed to know if I should have the POC working while taxiing and in ascent. It appears from the some of the submissions I will only need it at a low level – say, 2 litres a minute – or perhaps not at all. Am I right Ken?
Hi Chris,
I’m sorry to hear about your problem. I am not familiar with your medical equipment and I’m not a doctor so I won’t comment on your question. I would feel terrible if I gave you wrong information. Contact your physician or specialist and talk to them about flying. They should be familiar enough with aircraft pressurization and your concentrator to help you make an informed decision.
Thanks for reading and good luck!
Ken
love the article keep it up
Thank you!
Interesting!
But if I could understand you better, you said aircraft is not airtight as we used to think. My question is, why is it that an aircraft loses pressure and eventually get crashed when for instance something penetrate the fuselage?
Aircraft don’t crash because of a hole in the fuselage or rapid depressurization. Aircraft can still be controlled and safely landed when depressurized.
Hi Ken,
I’m a airline pilot and can’t figure this question out. Can you help please?
If I’m at FL300 and increase cabin pressure from 4000-6000′, does the Cabin differential pressure increase or decrease?
Hi Tauseef,
If you maintain FL300 and change the cabin interior from 4000 feet to 6000 feet, you are increasing cabin altitude (decreasing cabin pressure). This moves the pressure inside the cabin closer to the atmospheric pressure outside, thus decreasing your differential pressure (less difference between inside and outside).
Thanks for reading!
Ken
The last time I flew was over 20 years ago and during landing the pressure got really bad. I could feel pins and needles all over and my head being squeezed. I felt like I was about to have a nosebleed but didn’t. My empty water bottle was sucked in/crushed in the middle from it. My husband didn’t feel the effects as badly as I did. Is this normal or was there a problem? Are there people with extreme sensitivity to the pressure and if so, is there anything I can do to make myself more comfortable?
Hi Stacy,
The water bottle thing is perfectly normal and will happen on every airline flight. You drank the water when the aircraft was in cruise. The cabin altitude was probably 6,000 feet or so. Then you put the lid on empty the bottle. As the aircraft descended, the pressure increased inside the cabin. As the cabin pressure increased, it crushed the bottle.
As for your personal symptoms, I have never experienced them. I would recommend asking your physician. They will be familiar with the effects of altitude changes.
Thanks for reading!
Ken
Sure Captain I just want to ask you! Can a APU pressurise the aircraft on ground without your engines running
Hi Douglas,
In general, most aircraft APUs can supply air to the cabin when on the ground.
Nice article,
I have several questions, first, will typical airliner have pressurized cabin up to 2400 meters equivalent before actually ascending over that height ( I mean will I ever feel air pressure higher than 2400 meter/8000 feet equivalent at any stage of flight)? second, do airliners typically pressurize cabin before takeoff, for example may i feel that pressure of 8000 feet equivalent even before the plane is at airport sea level height of 10 feet while taking off? and thirdly, which airliners provide of 7000 feet or lower air pressure for more comfort? because I am sensitive to pressure change and feel a bit breathless with pins and needles even above 1900 meters see level on mountains, equivalent to 6500 feet, thanks ahead!
To clarify a common misunderstanding, when air pressure in an aircraft cabin DECREASES, the cabin altitude equivalent INCREASES and vice-versa.
7000-8000 feet is about the highest altitude (lowest pressure) the cabin of a typical airliner will reach.
The cabin pressure will never decrease before takeoff. There are negative pressure relief valves on the fuselage to keep this from happening (cabin pressure psi can never be lower than ambient outside pressure).
On some aircraft, the pressurization system will increase cabin pressure (lower cabin altitude) slightly before takeoff to seal all the doors and increase comfort as the aircraft begins to climb. You can feel this small increase in your ears just before takeoff.
As the aircraft climbs to cruise altitude, the cabin altitude climbs (pressure decreases) at a slower rate so when the aircraft reaches cruise altitude (ex: 37,000 feet) the cabin reaches its target altitude of about 7000 feet.
Opposite happens when descending. As aircraft altitude decreases, cabin altitude also decreases so the cabin reaches airport elevation at about the same time as the aircraft.
I think the Boeing 787 and some newer Airbus models have lower cabin altitudes at cruise. 6000-7000 feet range.
Hey Ken,
Great article. It is rare that puts Internet in a really good use. Please keep it up!
All the best!
EM
Thank you!
Hello Ken
I am hoping that you can help me find a solution to the following. I have to fly a lot. However, I have been suffering from barodontalgia [tooth squeeze] on an increasing basis during ascents – not descents over the last 18 months-2 years. Unfortunately, medical/dental people cannot find a cause. Thus I have now been grounded for several months.
By studying altitude graphs, I have noticed that the pain seems to start when the aircraft is climbing and attains 25,000 feet – at about 15 minutes after take-off and continues for about 30 minutes thereafter whilst the cruising height of about 35,000 feet is achieved. The discomfort is about 5/10 on an Airbus A320-214 and about 7/10 on an Airbus A321-231 but is about 15/10 on the most recent Boeing 737-8F2.
Oddly enough, I have discovered that I have not experienced the same problem on inter-continental longhaul flights – for example, Boeing 777-3FX (ER)]. However, I note that it flew at a slightly lower altitude, the lower 30s for much of the flight.
I am considering experimenting with a series of flights on a Bombardier Dash 8 Q400 because it only flies to 25,000 feet. I am guessing that the effects of cabin pressure will not be as severe.
I would be grateful for any ideas/comments/suggestions you might have as regards this course of action.
Thanking you in anticipation of anything constructive that you can say.
Ted
Hi Ted,
I’m sorry to hear about the discomfort you experience during flight. I did a little bit of research and found that the Q400 cabin altitude at a cruise altitude of 25,000 is about 8,000. This is similar to most large airliners at cruise. You are correct that when an airliner cruises at a lower altitude, the cabin altitude will be a little lower. Most aircraft pressurization systems are designed to keep the cabin at around 6000-8000 feet.
During an increase in altitude, gasses in our bodies expand which might explain why you have pain only during climb. When descending, those same gasses are compressed as the atmospheric pressure increases.
I wish I had some advice to give you. Because you may have a medical problem, the best advice will come from a medical professional.
Good luck. I hope you can find out what is causing the discomfort!
Ken
Hey Ted, I have experienced this same problem when I was a young child and have been terrified to fly every time since (I’m 49 now) due to the extreme pain and the “unknown” as to if/when It would happen again. I have flown many times since without incident but whenever I get ready to fly I’m always worried about any unknown dental issues that I might have that could cause this again. I know this post is old but have you come up with any other conclusions since? I’d love to hear any other info you have to calm my nerves as I’m about to take a 6hrs flight to Hawaii soon. 😉
Hallo Jason,
I am sorry to hear about your issues. I concluded that the problem was one of two things – either a dental issue (google “barodontalgia”) or a neurological one (google “trigeminal neuralgia”). As I was terrified of it being a trigger for the latter, I have avoided flying since 2019.
I did, however, have to do about 3 x 2 hour flights before I stopped. Fortunately, I had no problem with those. That may have been because of one or more of the following (a) I cracked a tooth and the dental people then did major work on both it and the adjacent wisdom tooth, (b) I attended an accupuncturist, and/or (c) I left as long a time as possible between flights to let whatever internal bit of me might have been aggravated to recover.
I wish you a safe and painless flight!
Ted
Hi Ken
Thanks for responding.
I have attended various medical/dental specialists over the last few months. Unfortunately, they cannot locate the source of the problem, which may or may not be neurological in origin.
My personal belief, based upon the fact of the same event happening on two consecutive days, at the same point on different flights, is that there are indeed gasses in my body expanding to cause me the pain – I believe that the condition is called barodontalgia. I have researched various academic articles online in the context of how it affects pilots and aircrews.
My reason for putting up my query on this website is to try and identify the precise trigger. In other words, might it be the rate at which the cabin pressure is changed or the amount by which it is changed, that is causing me the problems?
If I may put it this way. (1) Pick up a pen and press it between your thumb and forefinger. You can feel the pen. You know how much pressure you are applying to hold it. It is not painful. (2) Imagine you are walking along somewhere. You trip and fall forwards. You put out your arms and hands to stop your fall. The surface on to which you fall is rough. The palms of your hands are grazed and, perhaps, slightly cut. You swear. Slightly painful but bearable. You know that the pain in your hands was caused by the pressure of the fall of your hands on to the rough surface and you promise yourself to try and be more careful in future. (3) You are captured by a James Bond type villain. You are bound to a chair with the palm of your hand facing upwards. He/she has a drill and starts to drill into your hand to obtain information. You scream because of the force of the drill going into the tissues of your hand. You would not wish this experience on anyone.
As I stated previously – by examining flight altitude and speed graphs, I have identified two specific points in time during the ascent (namely, at about 25,000 feet during an ascent to 35,000 feet) of two different types of aircraft, namely, the Airbus A321-231 and the Boeing 737-8F2, on two consecutive days). Some invisible force then attacks the nerves in my teeth and it is like example (3) above and it lasts for 30 minutes in the whole of my upper right teeth. I do not believe that the events are purely coincidental.
Thus I believe that some aircraft system is engaged either by the pilot or an online computer at that point in the ascent. The process is to change the cabin pressure from “X” to “Y”. If I understand the position correctly, then the flaps at the tail end of the aircraft are opened/closed to a particular angle to set the appropriate level of cabin pressure.
On the assumption that something to do with cabin pressure is having an adverse effect on my dental/neurological system, I want to try and ascertain just what specific variation is causing that effect so that I might then try and avoid that particular situation.
If, however, you are saying that the mechanical aspect of the rate and amount of pressurization in a Q400 rising to a maximum altitude of 25,000 feet is no different in degree/operation/amount/rate/whatever etc. than the ascent of the A321-231 and the 737-8F2 from 15,000 up to 35,000 feet (with the pain setting in as the plane reaches 25,000 feet), then I may be wasting my (and your) time on this line of enquiry.
The only advice the medical/dental people can give me is – try a flight in the Q400 to the lower cruising altitude and see what happens!
If there is no more that you can ascertain and/or state about the technical/mechanical side of the cabin pressure changes during the ascent of the aforesaid three aircraft, then I would be grateful if you could consider whether or not you could identify any body/airline/department/agency/person or whatever/whoever anywhere in the world, to whom I could address my enquiry as I am desperate to find an answer.
Thanking you again for your time in any event.
Ted
Hi Ted,
I understand your frustration. The crew doesn’t do anything to the pressurization system at 25,000′. The pressurization system is automated on most every modern airliner. We set the destination airport elevation before we take off and the system takes care of the rest. The system maintains a “comfortable” rate of climb and descent inside the cabin during the flight. It’s possible that a Q400 cabin has a slower rate of climb since it’s not climbing as high as a jet.
I’m not a doctor so I won’t suggest anything for you to try. If your medical professionals suggest trying a Q400 flight, then it’s certainly worth a shot. Let me know how it goes.
Good luck!
Hi Ted,
When you find the appropriate person to ask, here is what I would want to know if I was you: Is the plane fully pressurized by the time it reach’s 15,000 feet? If not, is the rate of pressurization constant or does it happen more rapidly near the end of the process? Since the cabin is not sealed, does the pressure fluctuate (even minor fluctuations would not be a natural state for the human body), and if so is this more pronounced at altitude?
-=Bob
Bob,
Aircraft cabins are under pressure, but they don’t really “pressurize.” Cabin pressure actually decreases (the cabin altitude climbs) at a rate that is much slower than the pressure decrease outside the aircraft as it climbs.
The rate of pressure decrease (cabin altitude increase) inside the cabin is fairly constant throughout the climb – about 300-500 feet per minute. If the aircraft makes an intermediate level off, cabin pressure will stabilize. When the aircraft resumes climb to cruise altitude, the cabin altitude will again start to climb at 300-500 feet per minute.
If the aircraft climbs slowly, the cabin altitude will increase slowly; about 300 fpm. If the pilots need to expedite the climb (due to traffic or weather) the cabin will climb more rapidly (closer to 500 fpm).
Cabin pressure controllers have been around for years. The devices have been perfected and control cabin pressure accurately and smoothly.
As for the natural state of the human body… Flying in an aircraft is most definitely not a natural state for our bodies. Even a smooth, 300 fpm climb can be uncomfortable for some.
This is one of the best presented articles I’ve ever read. Thanks for breaking out the crayons on this!
Thank you for the kind words. I really appreciate it!
How is it that we don’t get altitude sickness in airplanes. Heck some people even get altitude sickness in Denver. But if the pressure of the cabin is equal to 6k-8k feet, some people should have the same effect? no?
Altitude sickness (which is a reaction to and/or symptoms of hypoxia) tends to begin at altitudes above 8,000 feet. Most people won’t notice hypoxia symptoms until above 10,000 feet. Aircraft cabins are maintained at around 6000-8000 feet which is well below the altitude most people will experience negative effects.
WebMD has a good article about this subject: https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/altitude-sickness
Thank you very much for the comments and the link. It is interesting that all the information on this page bears out what my neurosurgeon told me.I wondered why he knew so much about aircraft pressurization. I get quite ill after flying and remain so for a period of time after. I have a valve in my brain that releases the pressure of the cerebral spinal fluid if it gets too high. I was further told that it mimics the altitude pressure when I have went up to visit family that live at 8000 feet elevation and after being there a few hours I become ill. Thanks again.
Exhaust gas doesn’t “exit the engine as thrust” – thrust is a force and exhaust is a gas. Exhaust may *produce* thrust as it exits the engine but they are two different things. : )
Also worth mentioning that the exhaust gas’s thrust contribution is small compared to the thrust from the fan.
“Exhaust may *produce* thrust as it exits the engine”
A little nit-picky but, fair enough. I updated the sentence to reflect your comment.
Your second comment only applies to bypass engines. Pure turbojet engine thrust is produced by 100% exhaust gas.
Thanks for reading!
Dear Ken ,
Excellent and Very informative article , thank you very much! Please share your thoughts on below comment.
I suppose there must be a different reason as to why 14 psi is not maintained inside since the design would’nt change much when we are dealing with pressures below atm pressure.( Im guessing maybe more compressor power required to maintain 14 psi inside ( or ) increased weight of aircraft due to higher pressure leading to higher fuel consumption ???)
The maximum differential that can happen when we are dealing with pressures below atmospheric pressure on outside is 1 bar or 14 psi and the current fuselages must suffice for the same.
Hello Ravichandra,
To maintain sea level pressure inside an aircraft cabin at cruise altitudes, the aircraft structure needs to be significantly stronger (and heavier). If the pressure outside the aircraft at cruise is 4 psi and the pressure inside the aircraft is 12 psi, that there’s a differential pressure of 8 psi.
This means that 8 pounds of pressure acts on every square inch of the aircraft interior. That’s a huge number. A passenger window that is 9″ x 12″ (108 square inches) has over 800 pounds of pressure pushing against it. Increasing the interior cabin pressure to 14 psi significantly increases the forces on the aircraft.
Even a layman could understand your explanations. well done!
Thank you!
Hi Ken
I enjoyed reading your article from beginning till the end.
Not that I read the article but I read all comments and your responses.
Article reflects your knowledge and your talent in writing.
Responses reflect your skill in providing accurate and adequate information.
Thanks for a great article written by a talented Author/Pilot.
Joseph Bader
Thank you Joseph!
Dear Ken,
I am Mohammed Khan, from India. Got interested to know abour “cabin pressure” when today i read in our local newspaper, where the cabin crew forgot to turn on the switch which controlls the cabin air pressure, thereby resulting in nose and ear bleeding of passengers.
While surfing i came across “aeerosavvy” and how grateful i was to know the basics. Thanks a lot for your englightening article. I plan to read more and brush up my general knowledge. Thanks once again.
By the way i happen to be a Marine Engineer (sailed for almost 45 years, including 15 years as Chief Engineer). So your article was a delightful read.
Warm Regards,
Mohammed K. Khan
emkaysails@yahoo.com
Hello Mohammed,
We really won’t know what happened on that aircraft until a full investigation is completed by the proper authorities.
Thanks for reading!
Very nice article and good pictorial information shared. Crafty 🙂
Hi Ken,
I am guessing that the cabin pressurisation is via the overhead passenger (comfort) vents? If my assumption is correct, what happens if all of the passengers set theirs to the closed position? Thank you for your informative articles.
Hi Fred,
Only a small part of pressurization air passes through the punkah louvres – yes, that’s really what they’re called! So nothing bad will happen if they are all closed. Most of the pressurization air enters the fuselage through vents in the cabin hidden by trim panels.
Hi Ken,
Why we need to add 500 feet to destination airport elevation when landing with bleeds off?
Thanks and kind regards,
Miljenko Radic
Not knowing the type of aircraft or your airline’s procedure, I can only guess. My guess is that for a bleeds off landing, you turn off the bleeds off at about 500 feet AGL. So you set the pressurization system to 500 feet above airport elevation so when the bleeds are switched off, the cabin and outside pressure are equal. No “bump” to the passenger’s ears.
Dear Ken,
First, an amazing blog – as others have said – finally a good use for the internet!
My question is on the Boeing 767. I’d read it doesn’t have an APU (auxilliary power unit) so to the earlier question asked – what would be done if power on both engines was lost at altitude ( I know rare – but it happened on an Air Canada flight some years ago – they landed safely thanks to a pilot who was also a glider pilot! ). Much appreciated!
( oh, PS. I just rode a 787 to Japan – spectacular trip – even the food tasted better ! )
Hi Robert, thank you for the kind words.
The 767 most definitely has an APU. If both engines fail, a ram air turbine deploys to provide hydraulic power to flight controls. The crew will start the APU to provide electrical power to the flight instruments and navigation system.
During descent, the crew will attempt to restart the engines.
Glad you enjoyed your 787 flight. It’s a wonderful aircraft!
What is the pressurisation situation, with the fuel? surely the fuel tank is pressurised while in flight right? yes you’ve got release valves for moisture, and over pressurisation. but what is the tank pressure situation, does it drop in a flight? do you feed air in? and if so what do you do to remove said air from tank, when refueling.
And don’t call me shirley! 🙂
The tanks on the 757/767 are not pressurized. There are several pumps that carry fuel to the engines. In the event of a low pressure pump failure, fuel can actually gravity feed to the high pressure pumps in the engine. There are vents in the wing tanks to allow air pressure to equalize during fueling and flight.
May I use your writing for a project on a video? I’ll write the source. Let me know Thanks 🙂
Hi John,
You need to be more specific about your project and what information you are going to use before I can grant permission.
Thanks for that article Ken. I’m an old C130 environmental maintenance type and enjoyed maintaining pressurization systems on the Herky. Using sealant to attempt to seal off areas was not my favorite part of the job but we did it. I knew that the C 130 uses bleed air to pressurize but was interested in knowing how the old bombers like the B29 accomplished it. Your explanation was great, thanks!!
Hi Ken,
I have an uncle who has had a few ‘blanking out’ episodes after long intercontinental flights, over the last few months. We realized that these episodes were clearly related to his long flights.
I was searching the web for info on the oxygen levels and air pressurization etc. and amongst other articles, I came across your blog, till now, I have read about 50 articles on this topic on the net and I must congratulate you, this is the best article on the subject.
I am also a frequent flyer hence all the discussions and comments were very educational and interesting.
now my query, my search for information on the net on this topic is essentially needs to culminate into an advisory for my uncle. I am trying to arrive at the best aircrafts to fly long distance, purely on the ‘cabin pressure and humidity in the cabin’ as the criterion.
can you Please help me arrive at the right preferences ?
here is the list I have made with my limited understanding of the topic…
intercontinental / long haul:
1. A350
2.B787 Dreamliner
3. A 380
4. B777
5. B747
6…..
Domestic / Short haul flights ?
1. B737 – 700 / 800 /900
2. A320 Neo
thanks in advance.
best regards
shirish
Aircraft type really shouldn’t matter. All airliners fly with cabin altitudes between 6000-8000 feet. The 787 Dreamliner tends to have a slightly lower cabin altitude for a given flight level, but if the crew chooses to fly at a higher flight level due to weather or turbulence, the cabin will still end up around 7000-8000 feet.
If your uncle has “blanking out” episodes, he needs to see a doctor IMMEDIATELY.
Hi Ken,
I fly fairly often and usually I’m not affected much by the air pressure changes inside the cabin. However, the descent of a flight last night was extremely uncomfortable on my ears. Very full feeling, diminished hearing and at times painful. This morning my hearing is still muffled. I’m expecting this feeling to dissipate over the next 24 hours or so but I’m curious to know what was going on in that cabin last night! The plane was an Airbus A319 EOW.
Thanks for any insight you can offer!
Hi Amy,
There was probably nothing unusual going on with the aircraft’s pressurization system. Your symptoms sound like you have some sinus congestion; perhaps due to a mild allergy, a cold, or an irritant in the air.
I have a hard time opening my ears during descent. My audiologist told me I could talk to the flight attendant and request that the pilot adjust the cabin pressure. She said the pilot has some flexibility in the settings. Any truth to that? Also my ENT told some airplane models have better pressurization than others? Thoughts on that? Thanks!
Hi Cathy,
I’m sorry to hear about your problem. The most common trick to equalize the pressure in your ears during descent is to do a Valsalva maneuver (Valsalva – Wikipedia). I use it often.
Pressurization systems are automated and optimized for maximum comfort. All aircraft pressurization systems work using the same principles. There really aren’t some that are “better” than others. Pressurization systems on modern aircraft all descend the cabin at about the same rate. So, by leaving the system in “Auto” you will get the most comfort. If the crew starts messing around with manual mode, it’s not only a distraction but will likely make things worse.
Good luck!
Ken
Thanks, Ken. Good to know!
Cathy
Ken If flying at higher altitudes without pressurization can limit your level of consciousness to only a few minutes how do people climb mountains 18,000+ feet for a week or two without significant loss of brain function? I understand that they go up slowly and acclimatize but even then a summit day can be 12+ hours and they spend a good part of the time at the higher altitudes
Experienced high-altitude climbers are incredibly fit, are acclimatized to the altitudes, and have supplemental oxygen available for super-high climbs like Everest.
Part of the problem with aircraft rapid decompression is that it’s sudden. It’s a huge impact on your tissue, brain, and body. It literally knocks the wind out of you and is crippling.
Are the cargo holds/bays on large passenger aircraft pressurized (since the aircraft you fly are entirely cargo holds, they don’t count this time…)? Are they also generally heated, at least enough to keep things (liquids in suitcases, living things being transported) from freezing?
Hi Ed,
Yes, cargo areas on passenger planes (and most freighters) are pressurized with the same air as the main cabin so they remain a comfortable temperature.
Thanks Captain Ken. This is an awesome website!
Ken you are so knowledgeable about your pressurization in the airplane. My question is regarding the pressure on my body. I am a DVT deep vein thrombosis patient. Am i more in danger when the plane is being pressurized. Or am I more at risk at the longevity of the flight.
Just from your opinion, I realize you’re not a doctor. But I often wonder if I should take a direct flight because of the pressurization.
Hi Margie,
As you mentioned, I’m not a doctor and my knowledge of DVT is minimal. You should absolutely consult your doctor on this issue. He or she will know best.
Cordially,
Ken
Ken,
Thank you for the informative article. I still have a question…
On a B737-800 (I fly the sim), we must set the cruising altitude prior to departure. I read somewhere it’s because a valve is being closed automatically upon take off. My question is, if I failed to set up the proper cruising attitude, and need to set or correct the altitude in midair, how can I do that?
Joe
Hi Joe,
Unfortunately, I’m not familiar with the 737-800 pressurization system so I can’t help you.
I need to take 4 foil packages which each include 5 vials of 2 mL liquid prescription medicine (Budesonide).
The vials look similar to individual eye drop vials sold over the counter.
Each vial is a little over one half filled which you twist one side to open.
I will be flying on a Boeing 737-800 for 5 hours, and a Boeing 717-200 for 2 hours.
If I carry the sealed foil packages (with TSA approval) on a plane, will they leak or explode?
Hi Pamela,
That’s a good question to ask your pharmacist. He or she will be able to help you.
It is great to find someone who might be able to throw some light on a strange situation. Twice I have been carried off of a commercial flight after loosing consciousness. In both cases I got dizzy, then passed out before takeoff, while the plane was taxiing towards the runway. In both cases I was taken to the hospital and had a complete recovery and no real cause was determined other than to suggest that I was dehydrated. Love flying and have some 1800 hours as a private pilot, almost all in my own small single engine aircraft and no, I have no fear of aircraft and other than these two incidences, have not had any bad experiences.
Recently had some wax buildup in my ears, they were being flushed out, and I experienced the same dizziness and nearly passed out. This made me wonder, could the aircraft problem could be related to pressurization? Of course a plane need not be pressurized before takeoff, but is it possible that the pressure in a cabin might be changed while still taxing prior to takeoff?
Thank you for a great article and for being available to answer questions.
Morton
Hi Morton,
I’m sorry to hear about your difficulties. Some aircraft pressurization systems begin modifying cabin pressure before takeoff. I hope you and your physician can figure out what’s going on.
Ken, thank you for the info, The fact some begin modifying pressure before take off and some do not may explain why the problem occurs sometimes but not always.
Morton
If ever there will be an internal malfunction regarding depresurization of the aircraft,can we depresurized it external by doing manual and how?
Yes. The 757 and 767 have two automatic pressurization systems. If one fails, the other takes over. If they both fail, we can control the outflow valve manually with a switch on the controller.
Hello, I basically wanted to ask if the pressure in every seat of a plane is the same..
For example would a seat at the side, next to the passage for passengers have less pressure than a window seat?
Hi Jason, the pressure (cabin altitude) of every seat in the aircraft is the same.
I’m going to be flying in a few weeks on a 737-900 for a 4 hour flight. I know that that size plane flys at 41,000 feet and has a cabin pressure of 6,000-8,000 ft. Can I request the cabin pressure be low on the low side for comfort? If does the pilot even listen to those requests and or can they actually change it? In the past have had altitude sickness and now seem to be super sensitive to the changes. Just want to know if me asking is even worth it?
Thank you in advance!!
Hi Alex,
I’m sorry to hear about your discomfort.
The pressurization system is automated and designed to provide maximum comfort. When a cruise altitude is selected, the system maintains the lowest cabin altitude it can (max differential pressure). The crew can’t arbitrarily lower the cabin altitude at a given cruise altitude; it’s already as low as it can go.
Thank you Ken for your prompt reply!
Just found your site when thinking about how negative air pressure is used in hospitals to ensure that a virus vacates the room where it should not be and thinking how airlines can encourage people to fly again and stay in business. Is it possible to increase the air circulation and accelerate the emptying of the cabin in such a fashion that any contaminated air particles are quickly dispersed? Apologies if this is a stupid question
Not a stupid question at all. Aircraft cabins refresh air pretty quickly. Complete change-over in just a few minutes. The systems are automated, so there’s really no way to adjust them. The problem is the guy next to you or behind you coughing. No pressurization system can fix that. I am a big fan of wearing masks in public, including on airplanes.
Thanks for this article, very clear and I learn a few things. I was always wondering how the pressurized airplanes got ride of the CO2. I’m flying only piston SEP aircrafts, so I never used this kind of system.
Best
Dear Ken, you are a great source of information and thank you for you patience and hobby. Since the Covid 19 issue is to stay around for a while and air travel a must on cirtain unavoidable cases, please elaborate on the mist critical times during the flight. Is it mire likely that the airflow rate is less during ground movements, take offs and landings. The question is based on the concept of power needed most during the later two cannot to compromised and therefore the bleed system from the engine’s are shut down. Auxiliary flow is far less in volume capabilities and therefore the HEPA filters wouldn’t be able to capture the micro droplets of these deadly infectious virus particles, given the fact, that just one pax did enter the flight sick..engines do not function at their cruise power during ground movements until takeoff phase and during this period often you feel the stale or stuffy air, which leads to these doubts. Thanking in advance for your expert input.
I’m not qualified to discuss the propagation of viruses.
Hi Ken, Great article. Can you clarify ” Although the atmosphere is 300 miles thick” I thought the atmosphere was about 62 miles from sea level to space? Thanks.
Hi Jim,
We’re both right (and wrong). The Mesosphere reaches about 50 miles above the surface. The Thermosphere extends out 440 miles. The Exosphere extends over 6000 miles.
I can’t remember where I got the 300mi reference, but I should probably change it to something fuzzier. 🙂
Interesting reading here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Earth
I’m genuinely curious about which variant of the Boeing 377 Stratocruiser (pictured in the article) is supposed to have used electric compressors, As far as I knew, they used turbocharger bleed air, just as is usual with pressurised piston engine aircraft. They typically could not maintain maximum differential pressure with an engine out, so might be required to descend below the three engine drift down height if they lost an engine. I’m 100% sure that turbocharger bleed air was used on them, but I don’t exclude that some may have had electric compressors.
Hi Paul, I believe you are correct about the 377 using Superchargers. It’s been a while since I wrote the article and I’m having trouble locating my source for the 377 pressurization system. I’m trying to track down an early example of an airliner that uses electric compressors and I’m not having much luck.
Thanks for reading!
Ken
Dear Ken,
I am an Instructor for Load Control and transportation of Dangerous Goods.
I often quote your name to my students about the nice pieces of information shared from your vast experience and knowledge.
Also, appreciate the simple way that you can explain and illustrate.
Would like to know if passengers wearing Contact Lenses and ladies who have have undergone Breast Augmentation Surgeries, with Breasts implanted with some sort of Jell type material, are likely to feel pain during the Flight, especially during Take-off and Landing, because of the variation in Cabin pressure.
Similar to the short term deafening experience we go through during the Take and Landing stages, and to the cry of babies who can not bear the impact on their tender Ear Drums (Tympanums).
This is a general question that I get from my students.
Thomas
Hi Thomas,
Discomfort due to aircraft pressurization issues is caused by gasses trapped in the body. For instance: air trapped in a sinus cavity or behind an ear drum, digestive gas in the stomach or intestines.
Another cause of pain is nitrogen gas expanding in body tissues triggered by recent scuba diving.
The first part of your question is about contact lenses. There are no gasses being trapped by the lenses, so, no problem. Contact lens users sometimes have problems with lenses drying out in the dry cabin air, so eye drops can help with that.
Breast implants don’t contain any gasses. They are filled with a liquid/gel, so there’s nothing to expand as the cabin pressure decreases.
However, ANY type of surgery can introduce air into the body where it doesn’t belong. The body naturally absorbs these small pockets of air over time. I have no idea how long that takes.
After any type of medical procedure, it is extremely important to ask your physician if and when it is safe to fly.
Whare is lightening structure located in aircraft and the purpose, thanks for the great work
Hi there. I don’t know what you mean by “lightening structure.” Can you describe in more detail what you are asking?
Why sinuses or middle ear (which are normally fixed volume gas-filled spaces) may hurt when during altitude or pressure changes as on commercial plane flights, mountain climbing and other change in altitude related activities.
Hi Ken, this is an awesome article. Thank you. Prior to the 787 taking to air, I had the cool experience of being able to visit the mock-up of the 787 that they used to sell the plane to the CEOs of airlines. We actually had one of the salesmen go through the spiel. It was an incredilbe experience, and for a while afterwards, I rattled off some of the data that he communicated to us. One thing stands out in my mind, but now I don’t remember if I have it correct….my dotages of brain.. Anyway, I think he said that an aluminum plane expands about a half an inch under pressurization, but the 787 expands about an inch and a half. Do I have that correct?
Hi Tim. Unfortunately, I don’t have that information.
When flying to a very high airport (E.g. La Paz at 13,323ft) what does the green line look like in your graph?
Does the internal pressure-elevation go up to the destination elevation as part of the initial climb and then stay flat, is there a rise close to landing, or is the rise gradual over the whole flight? And what happens on the way back down to a low-level airport?
After departing a high elevation airport, like La Paz, the cabin altitude will immediately descend to around 7,000 feet and stay there until the aircraft begins to descend for landing.
Flew down to Mex from Canada on Feb 5 2023 on 737-800 – I was sitting in the back seat and on descent the ear pain became excruciating unbearable and it felt like my drums would pop out of my ears : so wondering: 1. is it worse for ear air pressue pain in the back of the plane (and in light of the statement herein that the air pressure exhausts r at the back of the plane) and if so how far into the plane to sit for lesser ear pressure?
2. Im 79 with various chronic med-conditions including severe CFS but a 92 year old aunt of mine not blood related with a has a regime she follows (for a previous history of ear problems on planes) being one good antihistamine 45 minutes prior to take-off and a hot cup of tea on descent (maybe only allowed in her first class seat upfront)for about 4 hour flight to Tuescon to spend the winter with her daughter and that does the trick for her – does a good antihistamine work and if so anyone have a suggestion of what kind bearing in mind i do not want to get too knocked out because of cfs and also sensitive stomach to lots of chemicals and foods.
3. Ive not flown much over the years but do not remember attacks of such severity when i use to sit in the front forward of wing. I did have another terrible attack in the rear say 8 yrs ago when i had a bit of ear infection cold (my flight 4.3 hours direct). thks in advance Ken – very inform article and ive not found much else regarding sitting near back vs sitting nearer to front.
Hi Ronald, I’m sorry to hear about your ear discomfort. It’s a fairly common problem. Pressurization of the fuselage will be identical in all areas, so moving seats won’t help or hurt your situation; choose a seat you like!
A cup of tea will never hurt, but since I’m not a doctor, I can’t answer your questions about medication. Please ask your general practitioner or, even better, an ear, nose, and throat specialist. They should be able to give you guidance.
Thanks for reading!
Ken
But Ken, have u heard generally of antihistamines working? – along with ur main advice of chewing gum and breathing out slowly thru nose after breathing in and closing mouth and pinching nose off most of the way.
You really need to ask your doc, especially if you have other conditions.